Lighting for holograms
On: Sun, May 26, 02 05:48:23 AM
Tom B. wrote:
Anyone have any suggestions on types of
bulbs, shades and optics etc. for wall display of
reflection holograms? My ceiling height limits the
distance of the source from the hologram to
2-3 feet, and the small halogen lamps
and bulbs I've tried produce a fairly ugly
non-point source beam with spillover light much
wider than the claimed spot angle. For 2-3 foot distance,
I would like a nice smooth 6 inch spot which
works out to 9-14 degrees. Don't need a lot of
wattage - 50W spots are way too bright as is.
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Colin Kaminski - Sun, May 26, 02 01:39:14 PM
I have used mini-halogen spots at 35W and 10 degrees. The
problem I have has is you need a UV filter to keep from
damaging the hologram long term. If money is no object then
there are very small instruments for stage lighting that
would have a flatter beam profile. I have only used them on
stage once and am not sure who made them. I rented them. 64.170.195.151
Thilo K. - Tue, May 28, 02 01:47:28 PM
Do you know how to light rainbow holograms ? Commercial
rainbow hs seem to have a shiny surface fixed to the back
of the hs, so lightning from front of the h is possible.
But I have not found a suitable material to connect with
yet. Spreading 'chrome' paint on back of the h didnīt help.
Have you stuck to illuminating these hs from behind, or
have you already found a suitable method of coping with
this problem ? 145.254.229.251
Colin - Tue, May 28, 02 11:28:28 PM
I have not tried it yet but I have some mylar and some
optical cement I will try someday. 64.167.149.193
Tom B. - Wed, May 29, 02 03:48:11 AM
Interesting - I haven't been much interested in making
rainbow holograms just because of the difficulty of
lighting them, but a reflective backing might be just
the ticket. I just now tried laying a transmission holo
over some mirrorized mylar and it produced a decent
rainbow-blurred image, but not quite as clear or bright as
from direct lighting. It probably IS best to use an
index-matching optical adhesive to reduces losses and
internal reflections.
Re lighting, just found a company that makes VERY high power
white LEDs - up to 120 lumens for the 5W model:
http://www.luxeon.com/ They make other colors too. Prices
are not too outrageous, about ten bucks for the 1W models
and $36 (U.S.) for the 5W. I think with the
addition of a small collimating lens these MIGHT do just
what I want - worth a try, at least. Would need to buy or
build a power supply, heatsink, etc. as well. Just what
I need, another project :) (sigh)
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Andrew - Thu, Jun 06, 02 09:40:32 AM
Tom,
You refer to Index-matching Optical adhesive. What is that
actually? I am a scultor who is currently experimenting
with transparencies over metals. I am interested in an
adhesive for this purpose. Thanks
would like to see some holograms you make. 65.235.104.94
Colin - Fri, Jun 07, 02 02:43:09 AM
I get mine from Thorlabs. I have used many of their part
numbers, Here is an example: NOA60
http://www.thorlabs.com/acb/index.cfm
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Tom B. - Fri, Jun 07, 02 03:36:46 AM
When you lay film over any rigid flat surface, inevitably
there will be a thin layer of air trapped underneath.
Index matching refers to eliminating reflections caused
by the change of refractive index as light passes from
film (index N= 1.5?) to air (index N= 1.0?) and back again by
replacing the air with a medium that has a refractive index
that is closer to film.
Optical adhesives, such as those made by Norland, are
clear one-part adhesives that are set by exposure to
ultraviolet light. Norland's glues have refractive indexes
in the 1.52-1.56 range. www.edmundoptics.com sells the
stuff at about $20 for a 1 oz. bottle. I recall having
seen more detailed product info on Norland's site.
If you want to experiment with the effect, you could
try various liquids such as water (N = 1.33), or mineral oil
or glycerine (N = 1.475). Higher index liquids, such as
toluene (N= 1.496) tend to be unpleasantly toxic.
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Colin - Fri, Jun 07, 02 11:15:37 PM
For reference we should add that when index matching two
transparent materials:
"Ideally, this should be the geometric mean of the
refractive indexes of the film and glass. In practice it is
difficult to find a liquid that is chemically and
physically acceptable and has exactly the right refractive
index."
Graham Saxby, Practical Holography, 1988
Many of the chemicals I have seen recommended would require
a hood to ventilate the toxic fumes. So play safe.
Fortunately a better match than air bubbles is not to hard. 64.170.193.244
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